Thanks to commenter Patrick, the following claim has been brought to my attention: "In the ’70s, during which he moved between London, New York and San Francisco, Ike Stubblefield shared the stage with the Jerry Garcia Band."
I guess Mr. Stubblefield just passed away (RIP). His wikipedia page notes gives a timeframe for the JGB sit-in as 1970-1975, so maybe we can assume this was in the Hopkins-era JGB? There certainly other were other keyboardists in the mix in that period.
Anyone have any leads on this?
Broader point: there are so many of these kinds of claims. I really should gather them all together in one place. Bernard Purdie is another one who apparently sat in with Jerry and Merl (and Paul Humphrey, who he knew) at the Bottom Line in November '74. He would go on to do some work on the Keith and Donna LP.
Please feel free to drop others in comments - please also paste URLs or other reference information so I can keep track of the sources of information.
Found these quotes in an interview.
ReplyDeleteStubblefield lived in Stinson Beach during the post Haight Ashbury years he was on the Bay Area scene.
“Commander Cody was my neighbor,” he remembered, then said, chuckling, “Huey Lewis opened for me back then. When Merl Saunders couldn’t do a Jerry Garcia Band gig, Jerry would call me. I sat-in with Electric Flag (Michael Bloomfield’s band), a whole bunch of folks.”
source
https://www.marinij.com/2014/01/17/lib-at-large-grammy-winner-stubblefield-returns-to-sweetwater/amp/?fbclid=IwAR0ULu9tRJ8EiX7b1cieGwJY11vJ8yW1c9M0phLZo8tSflzHyno2sc_N9hk
Helpful! So, not JGB at all, but in the Merl era. So ingtriguing. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteAlso saw in an interview that his manager at the time was "manager for ELO" So I assume Don Arden (Jet records). Do we know who managed Merl?
ReplyDeleteA random aside about Bernard Purdie and why you might want to take things he says with huge buckets of salt: In early 1964, at the height of Beatlemania, record labels around the world were furiously re-issuing tapes that the Beatles had recorded in Germany in 1961 to cash in on their new popularity. Purdie overdubbed some drums on top of Pete Best’s lackluster drumming to “punch up” the sound for the American market. It was something like two tracks, and probably took an hour of his time.
ReplyDeleteFast forward a few decades later, and suddenly Purdie was claiming that Ringo didn’t drum on any Beatles records, and in fact Purdie had overdubbed drums on pretty much every single Beatles record that had ever been released. Ay caramba. Talk about enhancing your resume!
Wow. Thanks. In this case, though, Big Steve mentioned it on his radio show. But I do think you spotlight a general issue, and that's exactly why I always seek other evidence beyond someone's claim!
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ReplyDelete@ralle, I've heard that Beatles line too, which seems needlessly shameless coming from a guy who certainly didn't need to pad his resume. Another oft-told story about Purdie is that he would show up to sessions and set up a sign next to his kit that said something like GOOD FOR YOU, YOU HIRED THE HIT-MAKER. He seems like quite a character (there are some instructional video clips on youtube that are priceless). Oh well! He's still one of the all-time great drummers. But given that he was such a session A-lister, it seems a little odd that he would sit in with Garcia & Saunders in Nov 74 (at one of the untaped late shows, since he's definitely not on the recordings we have). @JGMF, do you know the source of the Purdie claim?
oh whoops, just saw you said it was Parish's radio show. sorry!
DeleteBig Steve's show from 5/3/2018 about 25 minutes in. He says it was a show with Kreutzmann, which implies July '74, but since Purdie and Paul Humphrey were tight I strongly suspect it was November. I think the one thing we can have confidence in is that Purdie sat in.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, reading it now, he seems to imply it was the same night that Lennon was in the house. So that's 11/5/74. And since there's no tape of the late show, I think we should assume 11/5/74b.
rough transcription:
there's a famous show that we did with Jerry's band at the bottom line in New York City. And it was a historic show for many, many different reasons. And the band at this time had Bill kreutzmann, playing drums and john Kahn, and Merle and Jerry. And Martine, I think, was in the band too. And the strangeness of it was that john lennon showed up at the show and had a great time with Jerry and myself. We were there, Jerry, like I said, would always come early. And he was there with me, we've set up and this guy we knew named Ronnie sunshine, who was a strange character and a sort of a limo driver at times. He brought john lennon to meet Jerry. So Jerry and john had some time to sit and talk. And it was really good timing there, too. A lot of other friends showed up. And it got so boisterous and loud in there. And there was all kinds of folks and it just got where they couldn't communicate. And john lennon went and sat out in the audience. And he started having a great time enjoying the music so much. Even word got to him to sit in. But he wasn't in the mood that night or wasn't feeling up to it. And he never did. But it would have been nice to see that now. It this particular night, this nightclub is in Greenwich Village. And at the end of the night of this long, incredible night where Bernard Purdie showed up and was just leaving on Kreutzann to sit in and Billy threw him the sticks. And he's one of the greatest drummers ever. And he played with the band and he just lit it up where he was polyrhythmic he could he just went and played every direction. So all this stuff was happening this night.
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Wow. Thanks for sharing that!
DeleteI'm in Atlanta, I took lessons from Ike Stubblefield for a few years and kept in touch with him a bit after that. Great guy and it was sad to hear of his passing. I know he mentioned many people that he played with during my lessons including Martha Reeves, Clapton, etc. I never hear him mention Jerry though and he knew I was into the Dead. I know he played with a lot of "jam band" and improv-type people here in Atlanta including Col. Bruce Hampton so he was familiar with that style of music so I wouldn't be surprised if he did sit in with Jerry.
ReplyDeleteCompletely unrelated to Jerry, but I just wanted to add that I did see Ike play a show with Bernard Purdie, so kind of funny they are both being mentioned here.
DeleteSorry, one more memory of Ike with a loose Dead connection. I once met Otiel Burbridge at Ike's place when I went over for a lesson. He and Ike were just finishing recording something for one of Ike's solo albums. I'm not sure if it was ever released or not. He also was recording with Derek Trucks for the same album. I kept asking when he was going to release the album but he wasn't happy with it so don't know if it was ever released.
DeleteAppreciate those recollections!
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