tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post5769798484451834096..comments2024-03-15T18:58:45.318-06:00Comments on Jerry Garcia's Middle Finger: JGMS: "July 21-22," 1974, Keystone, Berkeley, CAFate Musichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-8616557732534762242013-12-26T08:25:27.619-07:002013-12-26T08:25:27.619-07:00Did you ever get anymore info from the commenter J...Did you ever get anymore info from the commenter J in regards to Jerry sitting in at the Denver Bluegrass Festival? Date?Jerry's Brokendown Palaceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06451361448230329754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-78913743454330109402011-01-17T21:23:30.336-07:002011-01-17T21:23:30.336-07:00I agree with you. It's no smoking gun, but it ...I agree with you. It's no smoking gun, but it just makes it seem less likely. Now, maybe they all brought in their favorite new releases and picked a few new tunes to work up, who knows. But it does seem less probable than that this material comes from a later date.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-7724950913843552362011-01-17T19:09:34.568-07:002011-01-17T19:09:34.568-07:00Another very small morsel pointing to this music b...Another very small morsel pointing to this music being from much later -- like BORW, it seems unlikely that they could have performed Cucumber Slumber on 7/22/74. The tune is from Weather Report's album Mysterious Traveler. According to the wikipedia page for the album, WR recorded the tune sometime between Feb and May 74. When was it released? 10 minutes of googling couldn't tell me that, but it did turn up this WR discography page with two reviews of the album. One is from Rolling Stone #166, which had a cover date of Aug 1 1974.<br /><br />While that certainly doesn't prove anything about the album's release date, it would seem to put it sometime around Aug 1 1974. Like BORW, it seems pretty unlikely that the band would have learned a tune that they couldn't have heard more than a week or so beforehand, right?Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11628132999021385676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-45657785410053152262010-09-05T22:53:02.414-06:002010-09-05T22:53:02.414-06:00Thanks, anon. You're right that it sounds more...Thanks, anon. You're right that it sounds more like '75. Checking against the June shows is a good idea, though I am pretty sure I would have recognized that, having heard those shows a fair amount. But it's worth looking into.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-82586507426275509142010-08-07T14:11:36.941-06:002010-08-07T14:11:36.941-06:00Hi, Nice blog. Well done. These shows are definetl...Hi, Nice blog. Well done. These shows are definetly mislabled. Some of the songs you mention scream'75. The recordings I have of jgms in summer of '74 have vastly different setlists than just a year later. I havent done any research yet or looked for the sources and this is probably a really dumb question but I was wondering if you checked these recordings against the 6/21,6/22/75 Keystone shows? Anyway I feel there is a limited amount of material the songs could be from if it is a hodgepodge as you say and most likely its '75. I'm gonna try to track down the source. Thanks for workin on this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-70963057358651475062010-07-31T16:20:29.655-06:002010-07-31T16:20:29.655-06:00j, please try me at jgmfblog@gmail.com.
Thanks!j, please try me at jgmfblog@gmail.com.<br /><br />Thanks!Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-70231119435821380552010-07-31T14:00:51.567-06:002010-07-31T14:00:51.567-06:00how can i write you directly? will tell you more ...how can i write you directly? will tell you more about the tape.<br /><br />thanksjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-13060761655704875562010-07-29T22:10:40.237-06:002010-07-29T22:10:40.237-06:00Another way of looking at the theory that 'Jul...Another way of looking at the theory that 'July 21-22, 1974" was a collection of odds and ends would be to consider who made the edits in the first place. Perhaps Betty or someone--Merl?--wanted copies of songs that weren't typically done by the GS band.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-14922847909958787712010-07-29T22:09:25.276-06:002010-07-29T22:09:25.276-06:00I find your reasoning pretty convincing. Do any of...I find your reasoning pretty convincing. Do any of the tracks have bass playing that sounds "un-Kahn like?" I am fixated on the idea of Merl playing the Sand Dunes and The Generosity as a traditional organ trio--Hammond, sax, drums--while managing the bass pedals himself. If Jerry dropped by, who said that Kahn did? If your hypothesis is correct and this is a cut and paste job, maybe Kahn is on some tracks and not others.<br /><br />Merl played in organ trios for years, touring Southeast Asia (mostly playing for US Serviceman) in a guitar/organ/drums trio, so he knew how to do it. And I saw him once (in 1976 with Aunt Monk) with no bass player, and he sounded great. Garcia and Saunders would have a different sound with a simple, funky organ pedal bass.Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-72016863933634442522010-07-28T21:21:21.075-06:002010-07-28T21:21:21.075-06:00Thanks for checking in and posting, J.
The tape y...Thanks for checking in and posting, J.<br /><br />The tape you mention does not ring a bell at all.<br /><br />I would be more than willing to contact your BF's family to ask about this tape. It sounds like a wonderful document. Post here if that sounds like a possibility, and we'll coordinate some 1-on-1 contact.<br /><br />Thank you again!Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18366371.post-19118680096000281622010-07-28T19:04:29.427-06:002010-07-28T19:04:29.427-06:00HI,
my boyfriend used to tell me stories of him pl...HI,<br />my boyfriend used to tell me stories of him playing in a bluegrass band in Denver when he was a kid and having the experience of a lifetime. I think he was about 16 and the band he was in played at the Denver Bluegrass festival (i think it was 1971 maybe). <br />He said that they met Jerry Garcia and he decided to play with this young band along with someone else-- maybe a Tex Watson- for a couple of songs, but not sure abut the second guy. <br />He had a tape of it- and it was AWESOME! I was wondering if anyone knows/remembers this. I cant remember the name of his band, but might be able to find it in some files. <br />I would ask my BF about it but he died 2 weeks ago. His family has the recording, but wont talk to me (because they are mean people) so this treasure might be lost forever with the passing of Tom.<br />Any information is appreciated. Sorry if this isnt the place to post this question-- but thought i'd try....Jnoreply@blogger.com